Report: Five members of Canada’s 2018 WJC team told to surrender to London Police

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

You are wrong everytime you comment on this...

I didn't defend anyone.
I'm asking you why you have a different standard for the players than you do for her, and you keep skirting.
Why are you not suspicious of her contradictions and selective memory loss?

because men need to stand up for once against the Horrendous acts men are allowing. We need to be the ones to say to eachother this isn’t okay

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

You can believe what you want, but you're here trying to make a case for her while applying a different standard to her contradictions and memory loss
than to the players'. And you're accusing the court of being unfair?
You're as unfair as anyone can get.
You're just picking her side arbitrarily and defending her to no end.

Start reading about the brain and traumatic events

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Did she refuse in any way?
Did they force her to stay?
Did she give consent?
Why did she agree to some blood and urine tests but declined an offer of a urine toxicology exam? The roofie drug is detectable up to 5 days, she went to the
hospital 3 days after the alleged incident?

The test kit is then organized with the hospital and the police department. The police department that really dropped their duty to assist with this (small town police departments are known to protect their sports teams )

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

I don’t care what anybody here or even what the courts say…I think they did it and I think they’re guilty…the cover ups with phone cameras, group chat and phone calls show they know what they did was wrong…Hockey Canada paying the the victim 3.5 million shows they know it too…now players are not testifying with integrity with their “sudden memory loss”…now all the evidence from Hockey Canada’s investigation might get thrown out because of how terrible they were in obtaining it.

These clowns have gotten every break…how can they now get off.

Especially since hockey Canada keeps a reservoir of cash just for these incidents

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Q: Why did E.M. wait three days before going to the hospital?
A: Because she didn't report the incident to police. Her mother's boyfriend complained on her behalf.

Q: Why didn't London police file charges in 2018?
A: Among other things, video of E.M. leaving the hotel, (see post #311), led detective Steve Newton to conclude that she was not sufficiently intoxicated that she would have been unable to consent. Newton did not believe that there was sufficient evidence to file charges. Since there was video evidence that consent was given, (in E. M.'s own words), the Crown would have needed to prove that E.M. was incapable of offering consent, and there is only her unsupported testimony to make that argument.

Q: Why was the case reopened years later?
A: Because there was a big stink on social media after reports about the out-of-court settlement were published.

Q: Why is Fun For All convinced that the players are guilty of sexual assault?
A: Because he has a daughter of about the same age, and he is projecting both her and himself into the scenario, and drawing conclusions from his emotional reaction to that hypothetical.

You’re gross

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Sounds like you're a chick.

Because men can’t want humans rights and dignity to be outstretched to everyone? you Must be a single child or have brothers

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Dude you're assuming things more than anyone. I believe that my assumption is logical. People do things they regret when they are drunk. God knows I have. Its human nature.

It’s not human nature to drink Alcohol.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

NO, I know you're unreasonable because you're willing lock people up without evidence, even in the face of evidence.
Keep dancing.

Have you been reading any of the comments and article and law links. Where did you come from

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

You and I see (or have seen SW's). Do you get consent from them for every single act you do? For example you're doing the girl doggy style and you slap her ass. Is that sexual assault? There is something called implicit consent that happens during a heated passion encounter.

You should be outright asking if they have any boundaries limits and stating that you want them to say no when they are uncomfortable. You should be making that clear. You should be checking in and saying is this okay? Are you sure? Do you like this? Etc.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

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It’s like someone saying do you think Im fuckable or who wants to fuck me. Doesn’t mean they want it to happen it’s just a way to get a compliment. Not consent.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

The bar video might have showed how much she was drinking and how everyone was behaving, he didn’t even look at it!

Walking thru a lobby showed him how drunk she was? Not going to accuse this cop of over investigating.

And he says she was consenting because the players say so? Might as well had the players lawyers do the investigation

This cop could have done better

Cop likely has same mindset of many of the commenters here. Sad.

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

It's entirely possible that Fun For All's theory of what happened that night is 100% true. That doesn't matter.

There isn't sufficient evidence that his beliefs are truths. Criminal Court verdicts are not based on beliefs, or sympathy, or any emotional reaction to any witness' testimony or counsel's tactics. Those things only matter in Civil Court proceedings.

There IS video evidence that E.M. consented to all of the acts that evening. There is no evidence that she was too intoxicated to be able to consent.

There IS video evidence that she was sufficiently sober to exit the hotel in heels without difficulty. Nothing prevented E.M from going straight from the hotel to a police barn in the early morning of June 19, 2018 to file a complaint. Texting her friends appears to have been a higher priority to her.

There is no video of her consenting to all of the acts. The video is already discussed in this thread numerous times and discussed the timing of the video and its A blanket statement of consent that is after it’s been done and she’s still in the room she didn’t feel comfortable enough to leave

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Doesn't really matter does it.
You made up your mind before the trial started.

He’s being sarcastic with you

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

The video tape says she was sober, walking down those steps in 6" heels, completely balanced, not holding on to the railing.
Walks out with a real spring in her step.

Heels are 4 inches not 6

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

You don't seem to be sufficiently adroit to recognize humour.

I've added you to my Ignore list. One of your moms should have taught you some manners.

You’re one of those to throw personal insults when you feel you can’t carry on a debate about a truly serious issue with society

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Why are they scumbags?
Don't you consider her a tramp?

What’s wrong with you

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

E.M. said 'it was all consensual' in a cellphone video entered as a defense exhibit. That's not a belief or an assumption.

There is no evidence that confirms beyond reasonable doubt that she was lying at that time, or not of sound mind. This is why Detective Steve Newton closed the case. Newton may have believed that she was sexually assaulted, but after seeing the video of her exiting the hotel, he know that that the combination of those two pieces of evidence is sufficient to form reasonable doubt. Everything else is just part of the dog and pony show portion of due process.

The handles calling for the lads' heads conveniently discard this hard evidence, and concentrate on minutiae, speculation and faith. Like The Crown, they know the cause is lost, but they follow the "three rules" which Roy Cohn taught to Donald Trump: always attack, never admit wrongdoing, and always claim victory, even if defeated.

There’s a show on Netflix about that exact problem you need to go watch. How police dismissing and not doing due diligence led to further more extreme acts by the perpetrator of rape. All about the journey of a victim of sexual assault and abuse by the system who can’t be bothered to help

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

Me too, not when they try to fuck me over though.

Do you believe all women are tramps and hoes and looking to fuck you over? Do you believe they all want something from you and have ulterior motives ?

 

[Muchadoaboutnothing]

I have no doubt there was an agenda at play here. I think Hockey Canada was pressured into paying off E.M. as they didn't want any more bad publicity. That move worked out well, didn't it?

They have a running account for paying off victims of this it’s already been revealed

 

[The Oracle]

They have a running account for paying off victims of this it’s already been revealed

This started with Graham James...

''Insurance companies were not willing to insure the organization for payouts related to the James case after it became public, which is why the organization needed to set aside a fund for uninsured payments, Cairo told the House of Commons heritage committee Wednesday.''

Hockey Canada has paid $7.6M in sex abuse settlements since 1989

Hockey Canada says it has paid out $7.6 million in nine settlements related to sexual assault and sexual abuse claims since 1989, with $6.8 million of that related …

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