Teachers Taking "Sick Days" - Anyone want to defend this one?
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It currently costs Ontario taxpayers over $10 000 000 000 (billion)/year to just service the existing ontario debt load. Servicing is just paying the interest accrued. Servicing the debt is Ontarios 3rd largest expenditure out-pacing the cost of all post secondary funding in the province. Also take into account that interest rates are at an all time low (borrowers go deep when price of money is cheap). What will it cost when interest rates increase (due to natural economic cycles and/or reduced credit ratings), and more debt is accumulated in the meantime, is frightening Unsustainability will lead to massive overhauls in public sector compensation packages probably sooner than later.
i know teachers get paid from tax money. i know how it works and that is even more reason the negotiators on the gov't side shouldn't have been so lax with the funds. they should have sat down and hammered them into submission. there are lots of ways for the gov't to save money and it doesn't just fall on the teachers.
i know and with an honest gov't those things wouldn't matter. so again the problem falls back to the gov't.
ah yes folks the discussion keeps getting more intelligent, let me guess a teacher threw you out of class once for acting like a jackass so on that day you swore hatred for all those in the education system to this day. Good to see you also did quite well on your writing skills.
What is selective?
1. The $83K a year
2. 1/3 of expenditures are on education
3. The govt is broke
4. They got the deal of the century
5. They whined like little children when reality dictates an excessive perk be revoked
???
These are facts
Please be more specific
Ignore me if you want, that will not change the reality of this ridiculous situation or the abuse of your tax dollars
Honest government????? Hahahahahahhahaha LOL LOL.....wow....thanks for the laugh....
Dollars
But I can check the "grid".
So,...OK,...lets put this another way,...if I was to check out the pay grid for a specific level , and compare the rate for the last year of the old contrac,t and the 2nd year of the new contract,...your telling me that the rate would be LOWER ???
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I'm not calling you a liar, but I have know way of confirming that.
But I can check the "grid".
So,...OK,...lets put this another way,...if I was to check out the pay grid for a specific level , and compare the rate for the last year of the old contrac,t and the 2nd year of the new contract,...your telling me that the rate would be LOWER ???
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OK...even if I misread I still benefited from the laugh...so thanks for that. Bottom line all governments want to be re-elected and will do what it takes to do so. One notable example is cancelled gas plant. Currently gov't negotiations dont include the provincial ability to pay, are done using taxpayer funding and often done at the front end of terms to mitigate taxpayer dissent (taxpayers have short memories) while government workers (teachers) are reminded how great the government is with each pay-cheque. (that was a run on sentence but I dont give a shit).
you may have cuz i said IF the gov't was honest. the gov'ts job (if it was honest) is to look after the people and that should cause them to get re-elected. the fact they pay people off for votes to get back in means they lost site of why they are there in the first place. the gov't is corrupt and lost and needs to be torn down and rebuilt.
i am not one of those people that pick on spelling or grammar. you made sense and that is good enough for me. i was also kidding about that post about you implying the gov't was dishonest, i was playing along with what you said.
this is stevel segal dancing to make it better.
So "T" has been both healthy and conscientious and has only taken off five sick days in the past ten years and has the maximum number of bankable days. Now with the new contract they are told they are going to loose all of those days (I presume without monetary compensation), there must be a lot of supper straight arrow people here on TERB, that they feel someone in that situation should just loose that "savings."
yes. for teachers who've reached the top of the grid. they've removed 3 days worth of pay with no increase in salary. For those still moving up the grid I believe their salaries will remain unchanged on the grid as the loss of 3 days pay is supposed to cancel out their movement up the grid.
I know plenty of professionals, including directors at TDSB head office, who not only rarely call in sick, but don't take all of their allotted vacation days.
Pay freeze
In the private sector, the majority, if you are told your wage is going to be frozen, happens a lot when a company/economy is in the shits, the persons wage stays exactly the same, it doesn't go up, it doesn't go down.
AND that person would NEVER say my wage when DOWN, because they felt they were "entitled" to an increase.
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Help me out here,...the teachers are saying that since their salary didn't go up,...that means it went down ???
In the private sector, the majority, if you are told your wage is going to be frozen, happens a lot when a company/economy is in the shits, the persons wage stays exactly the same, it doesn't go up, it doesn't go down.
AND that person would NEVER say my wage when DOWN, because they felt they were "entitled" to an increase.
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Okay, okay we know. The average is $83K per year. Anybody but me picture him jumping up and down saying this?
Perhaps JL is onto something with his repeating something so often it becomes true. I tried searching to see how many times he has posted it, but the function won't allow.
Here let me give you a new number to work with... Assuming that the $83K (now I'm saying it) is pro-rated, if the year was 12 months of work (no holidays for these lazy good-for-nothings) then the average wage would actually be $99.6K.
Not trying to be a jerk, but I am tired of his only post reminding us how much they make. It's not even what the article is about.
