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What is the best trade to go into ?

Tangwhich

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(no offense to your occasional incidental use)

Funny thing I've noticed in hiring semi-skilled labour in the past, is that guys who proudly list their Forklift License in their resume, are LAZY DOG FUCKERS!

I suppose it is because they chose to get a license for a job that you sit on your ass!
Maybe.. I can't say.. I'm in an actual trade.. my employer sent me on the training cause I needed to use one at a specific job..
 

Tangwhich

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What it's meant to be is a way to be working, as part of one of your skill set.
I can't disagree with you that it's worth having, I just don't see it as a trade. You can't compare something you can get in a day (that's the good course) to something that take a 5 year apprenticeship.
 

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If your nephew does a trade, he should also do some business courses or get a college business degree as well - set for life he is is half smart and good at working with people as he could start his own company and employ other apprentices, juniors to do a lot of the work.
A huge waste of money. If you have good marks in high school you should be able to get an apprenticeship going, post secondary school will have little to no impact on your selection. You will go to college during your apprenticeship and you will be paid to go.
 

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I can't disagree with you that it's worth having, I just don't see it as a trade. You can't compare something you can get in a day (that's the good course) to something that take a 5 year apprenticeship.
There are 4, 7, and 10 day courses and you can't compare those to a one day course. No ones going to let you near 25/50 ton forklifts with a one day wonder ticket and guess who makes more money.
 

Tangwhich

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There are 4, 7, and 10 day courses and you can't compare those to a one day course. No ones going to let you near 25/50 ton forklifts with a one day wonder ticket and guess who makes more money.
That's not really a forklift then. You're talking about something a little more specialized.
 

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If it is the best bang for the buck then I would go for a trade employed by the government, if there is such a thing. How about an electrician working for City Hall or something like that, lol, tremendous pay, benefits, job protection, early retirement, pension, almost like a teacher, lol.
 

blackrock13

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If it is the best bang for the buck then I would go for a trade employed by the government, if there is such a thing. How about an electrician working for City Hall or something like that, lol, tremendous pay, benefits, job protection, early retirement, pension, almost like a teacher, lol.
Let us know when you get in. My take that they're are closed shops with targets painted on them.
 

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i drive truck. i get paid to listen to the radio and see the country. shit could be worse.
 

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If it is the best bang for the buck then I would go for a trade employed by the government, if there is such a thing. How about an electrician working for City Hall or something like that, lol, tremendous pay, benefits, job protection, early retirement, pension, almost like a teacher, lol.
Tradespeople and professionals working for municipal governent tend to be paid lower than those in the private sector. Just what I have been told by some there...don't flame me for passing this on.
 
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If it is the best bang for the buck then I would go for a trade employed by the government, if there is such a thing. How about an electrician working for City Hall or something like that, lol, tremendous pay, benefits, job protection, early retirement, pension, almost like a teacher, lol.
+1 Overall a pretty good living, not much stress.
 

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unless you are a top grad at the u of t, a good industrial trade pays better.
A top paying lawyer is more than just academics. Business smarts, the ability to drum up business and defeat the competion as well as manage deadlines, accounting, business, relationships and so on are all required for big success as a lawyer. That said, on average, as a lawyer, you will make more than almost any other profession in Canada, except...

Wait for it...

Judges.

Judges average about $250K per year (namely because all judges make basically the same amount at their level no matter how good or bad they are).

Laywer on average make $110K per year or so (my numbers are probably out of date).

However, the biggest money making lawyers make 2-3 Million per year. The happiest lawyers probably make a lot less on average because the amount of shit and shinola that you've got to put up with to make 2 -3 million a year is waaaaaaaaay more than any normal human being wants to put with. But I know some reasonably happy lawyers who take 6 weeks of holidays a year and who make well over $500K a year. That be more than good enough for me...

Oh, and you don't need to be top of class at U of T to make big coin. Just to get into certain shops. After that, there's waaaay more at work than your grades determining whether you're a top money maker in law. A whole lot more.
 

james t kirk

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^^^ I'm not a lawyer, but shit, 110k a year? I would think on average more than double that. Triple even.

I recently paid 350 an hour for a lawyer to do a review for a property.

Now I know that that's his charge out rate, but he has to be earning at least half of that.

350 / 2.6 x 2080 = 280k per annum.
 

Tangwhich

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Nope, but you start somewhere and work your way up for the big prize.
Of course, like ANY job. And like ANY job, there's good and bad workers. But even with a 10 day course, fork lift isn't a trade and should not be seen as a great career to strive for. Not to say that it can't be a good job, but it's not something to put on a wish list either if you're capable of more.
 

Tangwhich

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If it is the best bang for the buck then I would go for a trade employed by the government, if there is such a thing. How about an electrician working for City Hall or something like that, lol, tremendous pay, benefits, job protection, early retirement, pension, almost like a teacher, lol.
If you want to work as an electrician in this city then you have to go through the IBEW. They have a open calls for apprentices every year. You can get in if a company sponsors you (doubtful the city will do that) but you can also get in with the general pool. If you've got good high school marks and do well on the apptitude test/interview, you go to the top of the list. Non union, just call companies see if they are interested in hiring you on as a starter.
 

Tangwhich

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^^^ I'm not a lawyer, but shit, 110k a year? I would think on average more than double that. Triple even.

I recently paid 350 an hour for a lawyer to do a review for a property.

Now I know that that's his charge out rate, but he has to be earning at least half of that.

350 / 2.6 x 2080 = 280k per annum.
I once dated a fairly new lawyer. I was shocked to find out that she made lousy money. I don't remember specifically what but it was less than 40k. She said that most lawyers don't make the big dollars people believe. It's just the select few at the top. I can't say if it's true or not, but that's what she told me.
 

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Toronto Hydro, TTC City of Toronto all have electricians on the payroll. They also pay the apprentices their full wage to go to school.
 

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^^^ I'm not a lawyer, but shit, 110k a year? I would think on average more than double that. Triple even.

I recently paid 350 an hour for a lawyer to do a review for a property.

Now I know that that's his charge out rate, but he has to be earning at least half of that.

350 / 2.6 x 2080 = 280k per annum.
I am pretty sure the average lawyer in Ontario makes a lot less than 280k a year. A lot less. 110 sounds about right.
 

Tangwhich

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Toronto Hydro, TTC City of Toronto all have electricians on the payroll. They also pay the apprentices their full wage to go to school.
Hydro use a different union and that's specialized stuff. They arn't wiring homes or high rise buildings. The TTC guys are separate as well.. I believe they are part of the same union as the other TTC employees. Pretty much anyone else working for the city are IBEW.
 

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The smart alec answer is "drug" trade :)

But for the feedback you are looking for, I would say electrician. Enough work around in various industries and projects, plus this can be transferable to the growing renewable energy field (...those solar panels need to be installed and wired by someone). Plus you have an opportunity to run your own business with this trade. Thats my serious 2 cents.
 
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