400 per meet? That’s way too much.What's the going ppm amount for sbs. Getting 400 to 1000 atm.
I’d just stick to SPs.
400 per meet? That’s way too much.What's the going ppm amount for sbs. Getting 400 to 1000 atm.
What do you mean by pro vibes?That's for sure, I think you'll start seeing an uptick later in August as most students start moving back before September. I've definitely noticed a bunch of new faces on SDM this weekend and they seem to be more responsive to messages. Be careful, I had one who seemed too eager to meet up this weekend, possibly due to pro-vibes or something else.
Next date will be the game changer.Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
It's possible with this girl had we gone on a few more platonic dates things would have escalated, but that
felt like far from a guarantee.
I find the lack of clarity with these dates frustrating. If you're incredibly blunt you risk scaring the girl off.
If you are too sheepish you find yourself paying hundreds of dollars for platonic "dates". I've tried to make
it clear in my text messages with the girl what I want without being crass. I guess some girls don't quite
get the message.
What would you consider to be a reasonable ppm rate?400 per meet? That’s way too much.
I’d just stick to SPs.
I found ppm requests in the $ 400 to $ 500 and higher range. I also find many (most?) can't host so you are booking a hotel on top of the rate.What would you consider to be a reasonable ppm rate?
In comparison to SP’s with whom I don’t need to do the whole date organizing thing, the regular 150-200 with guaranteed s*x sounds like a better deal.What would you consider to be a reasonable ppm rate?
What? you didn't pay her the first (and only) time you met?I’ve had an SP tell me that she’s changed and she’s gone back to school, and I should send her 400 bucks. I did but I blocked her after that. Note that I only met this person once for about 45 mins. Women generally don’t want to work- like the song says, “girls just wanna have fun”
I guess she wanted to turn it into a sugar baby arrangement. There were no other clients so I was the easy target.What? you didn't pay her the first (and only) time you met?
I wasn't aware that SPs are now entitled to one time payment from former clients if they decide to exit the industry.
It’s an interesting idea. I can see it as a good way for guys to get some comfort level with women, and TBH get lessons on how to interact with a pretty girl. You’re right it’s cheap therapy, and the only way to get this kind of practice with zero consequences.Do you think a Rent a Girlfriend service like in Japan would be successful in Toronto?
Rates in Japan can be as low as $60/h, of course you'd still have to pay for food and drinks but nothing as exorbitant as an SB would charge.
There is explicitly 0% chance for it to turn physical (some girls don't even allow holding hands), and the main service is emotional labor. Many guys use it just to feel more comfortable around women, develop confidence, get dating advice, practice social skills, it's practically cheap therapy. The girl will also take the lead if you're socially awkward instead of expecting princess treatment.
I notice that my flirting skills increased with seeking out SB too. Not so much with escorts.It’s an interesting idea. I can see it as a good way for guys to get some comfort level with women, and TBH get lessons on how to interact with a pretty girl. You’re right it’s cheap therapy, and the only way to get this kind of practice with zero consequences.
I was useless at chatting up girls when I was young, and even as an older guy It did not come naturally. But seeing SP’s and eventually getting into the sugar world made my confidence level with women soar. Now I can sit in a bar or coffee shop and chat up girls or servers easily without any fear. I’m actually pretty flirty, and good at it. As long as I’m a pleasant guy and not an asshole, what’s the worst that can happen?
But it’s taken a lot of $$ with escorts to get to this point. (Although I’ve also had lots of great sex for my $$ too) The Japanese model seems like a good fit for guys who need some help.
Why are you wasting your time reading and posting in this thread when clearly SB arrangements are not for you?I’m at a stage in my life when I don’t want to give my time to someone I don’t know if I’ll want to see again, let alone give them my money.
I see escorts strictly for s*x, and that’s about it. I’m sure there’s a lot of nice chats we can have but I really am not interested in chatting. Multi-hour dates, for me, are a way to genuinely connect and build a relationship. I can afford to lie to myself that I’m bonding with a lady I met off a dating app. I’m definitely not building a relationship with an SB. Why would I give them hours of my life or even pay for it?
Why’re you wasting your time replying to my comment when you learn nothing from it?Why are you wasting your time reading and posting in this thread when clearly SB arrangements are not for you?
Your posts in this thread are nothing but complaints about how “important” your time is and a pathetic attempt to somehow shame those who have found success with SB arrangements to compensate for your own failure to do so.Why’re you wasting your time replying to my comment when you learn nothing from it?
I will continue to do what I want, enjoy my free time and comfortable budgets in life. Thank you for noticing.Haha.. Failure? Pathetic? Do what you want, you obviously have plenty of free time on your hands and lots of cash to burn. I never said anybody should follow my lead. This is a lounge. We speak our mind. It’s not my fault if a fool is triggered.
I didn’t post nonsense or disrespect anyone. I didn’t read the 100 pages. I’m sure you have read all of them considering the amount of free time you’ve confirmed that you have.I will continue to do what I want, enjoy my free time and comfortable budgets in life. Thank you for noticing.
You can only wish your useless posts here in this particular thread would trigger anyone with true experience with arrangements, how absolutely epic they can be (many have shared their stories here in the 100 pages before you) and I was just commenting on the nonsense you were posting, as does happen being here in the lounge.
Yes I have casually read 100 pages of posts over 2 years since the thread started. I suppose that sounds challenging to you? You also make having free time sound like an insult...so strange.I didn’t post nonsense or disrespect anyone. I didn’t read the 100 pages. I’m sure you have read all of them considering the amount of free time you’ve confirmed that you have.
To each his own. We agree to disagree.