Civil War: MAGA in Turmoil

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Show me the data that says right-wing males are more prone to terrorism PROPORTIONALLY to Muslims
There is no data regarding that. It isnt published.
So you cannot draw conclusions anyway.
Existing data only shows that by frequency and body count right wing terrorism is the biggest threat.
Having said that propotionality or per capita rates are useless in this case
Proportionality is useful when comparing 2 groups that are numerically similar.
When one group is a tiny population even a smaller number of crimes will show a larger per capita.
That is useful to push Islamophobic narratives but not if you are truly interested in national security.
Which is also why the law enforcement agencies that deal with these issues consider right wing terrorism to be the biggest threat.
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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I thought so.

You needn't be, unless you're scared of law and order
Fascism is a violation of law, order and democratic values.
One should be scared.
Remember the prose from Germany?
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
 

Phil C. McNasty

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There is no data regarding that. It isnt published.
So you cannot draw conclusions anyway
Here you go: https://www.google.com/search?q=which+is+the+greater+threat+right-wing+terrorism+or+Islamic+terrorism+globally?&oq=which+is+the+greater+threat+right-wing+terrorism+or+Islamic+terrorism+globally?&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDU5NDVqMGo3qAIUsAIB8QXKkjsaouBfsQ&client=ms-android-bell-ca-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

And before you say global Islamic terrorism doesn't affect North-America, this is exactly what Trump is trying to prevent by limiting immigration from 3rd world countries
 

Shaquille Oatmeal

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Nice try moving goalposts.
Yes in NORTH AMERICA and specifically in the US it is right wing extremism that is the bigger threat.
Actions to prevent a non existent problem by vilifying a demographic is fascism 101.
 

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Shaquille Oatmeal

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Nope, its called prevention 101.

Tell me please, does America owe the 3rd world something??
Does Trump have an obligation to take in 3rd world undesirables?
"Prevention" of a non-existent problem while overlooking the actual problem, is just the kind of excuse fascists would use to push the country towards more fascism.
No, Trump doesn't owe either the 1st word or the 3rd world anything.
However Trump does owe both citizens and non-citizens within US borders, as well as the constitution to which he swore his oath when he took office, a duty to uphold core democratic values. Which he isn't delivering on.
And the only undesirables as I have said many times, are the MAGA Nazi crowd.
Immigrants from the 3rd world are actually the ones who excel.
Just look at income levels, leaders of industry etc at some of the biggest corporations in the US and you will see immigrant groups at the top.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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No, Trump doesn't owe either the 1st word or the 3rd world anything
Good, I'm glad you agree with me

However Trump does owe both citizens and non-citizens within US borders, as well as the constitution to which he swore his oath when he took office, a duty to uphold core democratic values. Which he isn't delivering on
Trump hasnt deported anyone illegally. Therefore he is upholding core democratic values

And the only undesirables as I have said many times, are the MAGA Nazi crowd.
Immigrants from the 3rd world are actually the ones who excel.
Just look at income levels, leaders of industry etc at some of the biggest corporations in the US and you will see immigrant groups at the top
Was this shooter part of the MAGA Nazi crowd too?

 

Phil C. McNasty

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As I said fascism is a process and exists in a spectrum.
It will get there eventually if Stephen Miller and his cohort are allowed to have their way unchallenged
So long as Trump abides by the constitution and rule of law, there's nothing wrong with what he's doing.
It doesnt matter if you dont like it, or if it hurts your feelings
 
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